I have a dream - and an echidna….
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What do you think? Can we do this? How do we do this? Dan and I are prepared to put up the infrastructure. How do we stop it getting spammed?
You tell me - Comments below - I think this thing could be huge.
Ed and the echidna…
Hi Ed - I used MediaWiki to enable our group to collaborate on the 30DC i.e. contribute information, and edit the content of others. It’s a fantastic way for people to make progress faster through leverage. In effect, it’s a membership site, because those who want to be users have to apply for access, and the application has to be approved before they can get into the site. Cheers, Geoff.
Hi. I’m another still battling time crunch so not all the way through 30DC, but I love this idea. (how about IMwiki or wikimark as a name?)
My apologies for the long post, but being a renaissance woman, you sparked a few ideas I’d like to share back, some of which build on the posts above as well. I think wikipedia is a great model for it, moderated by users, but as has been mentioned, differentiate between new or fly-by-night users and long-time contributers by having gradings members progress through based on their levels of contribution to the site, with privileges awarded as you progress through each level giving you access to more of the higher end features. Public content could include definitions, articles, and maybe blogs, with learning content requiring registration.
I like the tiered release option Shannon suggested - maybe a person could self-rate their competence in each level and when they feel they’ve mastered it tick the box that says so and progress. A minimum time limit for each level (say a week) would lock out content or site mining, and a checklist of things you should have done to prove your mastery (eg create a blog, post an ebay auction, whatever) to give members a good idea of the steps to go through, although I wouldn’t make progressing reliant on ticking off every item since some people might not feel certain steps to be relevant to their own situations - if the web is anything it’s fluid as to what you can do with it, right?
I’d also like to turn that idea of self-rating competence around, and include a q&a/forum area where people can post topic related questions, selecting the IM field their question or posting relates to (open access to read but registration to post). If there are topics that should be limited access then there could either be a member only forum, or an option when you create a topic to mark it as public or private for members only - all replies would inherit the same status, and private topics could have a little alert symbol next to them on the boards. Any replies posted have a rating at the bottom asking the reader - all readers, not just the original topic poster - to rate how expert the author appears to be in this topic. Profiles of members can then include areas of expertise and comparative numbers (like the ebay feedback system) of ‘expertise level’ based on the number of people who’ve read and judged the responses and their average rating. That would over time add value in that members could judge the quality of the information they’re given through the forum, and additionally find people to contact or buy from if they want to investigate a particular field or technique. All links and expertise areas should be in profiles, limiting signatures to name (which could link automatically to profile), and maybe a favourite quote (I personally find that’s a better way to judge how much someone thinks like me than a marketing spiel). High level experts also get the option to limit the grading level required for someone to open chat or private messages to them, so you can get the big names registered and contributing while making sure they don’t get millions of jv approaches and basic questions from people who haven’t read the material available.
If it’s going to develop into a networking resource, then I also think it’s important to provide two additional functions: firstly a private message board facility (like elance) where ideas can be discussed and retained confidentially without both parties needing to be online simultaneously - this would be one of the features available to higher graded members for collaboration. Secondly a chat room facility where people who need to get quick answers can go to connect with anyone else currently logged in, groups can use for mastermind sessions, and even have the chat equivalent of regular ‘teleseminars’ on hot topics, but unlike the phone version everyone can contribute.
While I don’t agree that all affiliate links should be banned, (I see nothing wrong with being recognised for recommending something I’ve personally found useful) ethics and rules of use should definitely apply. How about not allowing links within the forum posts - easy enough if the field is marked ‘no html allowed’, but having the option to attach links to a post, which readers can flag as affiliate links (if the poster hasn’t flagged it themselves in attaching it), vote to disallow, or rate as to usefulness so that there is some social control and consensus? These links would have to have a ‘description’ field as well so the poster could mention their own experiences with any products they’re referring to.
With links controlled that way, instead of members using the standard resource box to promote their links, their posts will automatically link to their profile which could also include any projects they’re currently working on, or have worked on, with sections for title, website link, description, topic/niche, action plans, and the like. Projects can also attract comments/suggestions. You’ve got a triple benefit here - people can promote their own projects (it would encourage a more professional approach over simply linking to an affiliate website since they’d have to have the details of what it was about and map out how they were going to promote it in the project fields), while they can get help and advice from the community on what they’re doing, and finally anyone looking to go into a niche can search on what’s already been done to avoid reinventing the wheel. This search could be one of the facilities that’s limited to people of a certain grading level who’ve already contributed so you don’t get the equivalent of lurkers stealing ideas. Also if some sections eg action plans can be marked by the member as to the level of privacy, from “all registered users” right up to “by invitation only” then the member can seek advice from people they know are rated in the area they need help in, while still maintaining control over the release of their sensitive information.
I got a bit enthusiastic, I think, so I’m going to summarise the main areas I suggested, just to simplify it down.
* Definitions of IM and Internet terms (public content)
* Articles & possibly blogs (public content but blogs would be created by registered ‘expert’ members. Articles submitted by members at any level would have voting as per forum posts below)
* Q&A/Forum including video/audio submissions (topics marked public or members only by poster, voting facilities for all readers as to expertise level of poster on topic of post)
* Posting to forum (all registered members, links ‘attached’ to post with flag for affiliate links, voting to rate or disallow)
* Learning platform (registered users, multi-tiered by self-rating mastery with minimum time limit per level)
* Profile (all registered users, searchable by members, additional privacy options available to higher level ‘experts’)
* Chat rooms (level 1 users, the one above newbie, eg with 5 posts or more, to prevent spamming. This is a different ranking to the learning platform, which is self-selected, and is based on contribution and feedback ratings)
* Projects (creation by level 1 users, specific areas of content marked public access eg titles and website links, remaining areas marked by author as for registered users only or private for viewing by invitation only. Browse facility and search on project title for public access, Searchable on full text limited to level 2 users and above. Comment/suggestion limited to level 2 users. Level 2 users would have both contributed to the forums and been given expertise rating by the community to a minimum level, so that contributions are less likely to be used to mislead or misdirect.)
* Private message board (level 2 users and above)
Thanks for reading it all
My whole wish-list is ambitious I know, but I like to aim high.
Crystal
I don’t know if it’s really a great idea. I think it will dilute the effectiveness of the 30-day Challenge. The thing that makes the 30DC so effective is the anticipation of learning things that can’t be found anywhere else for free. Plus, the concept of it being a 30-day project provides a point of focus for participants. A “wiki” of this information could easily breed complacency and will also taint the marketplace with a ton of half-baked spam-like marketing efforts produced by individuals who aren’t seeing the bigger picture. They will simply see it as a resource to pick and choose different aspects of the PROCESS without gathering deeper insight. IOW, there will be plenty that will try to shortcut the process with a get-rich-quick mindset. Remember the early spamming problems with Tumblr?
If it’s done, it will have to be incredibly well-planned, unlike most wikis. There’s also the issue of controlling misinformation (intentional and accidental).
Just one man’s opinion. If it’s done, I wish you the best. I hope it doesn’t dilute the effectiveness of 30DC.
I think it is a great idea.
When you realize you that Already Have;
-a huge table (TDC Site),
-with tablecloth(presentation and forum tools as designed by Dan)
-already many fine dishes ON the table (Apps, tools, and ‘How to’s’ by Staff and Participants)
-an endless supply of chairs (with Dan’s knowledge of server-load balancing),
-Thousands of ready appetites (How many TDCers dug in, in August?)
-Many chefs willing to contribute (Garrett, Sorin, Nello. Dessert anyone?)
-terrific lighting (best mods in the business)
then you know you’re on the way to something potentially huge…
Indeed, when you look and see all that,
you might as well realize you’ve got quite a banquet on your hands.
Why not turn it into a 5 star function hall?
Oh, and I can’t believe Ed was afraid of that cute little echidna.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Echidna%2C_Exmouth.jpg
Great idea, Ed! wikipedia is a great model, and I’d love to participate and contribute in any way possible.
Hi Ed,
Seems to me this idea might have the same Achilles Heel as the 30C, which was spamming/spammers.
Could a free format work, with the caveat that you had to actually “apply” to be accepted into the forum, giving your reasons for wanting to join, what skills you think you bring, and your agreement that you won’t spam or otherwise violate the forum rules? The application could be different than this too, just an idea.
Free is great, but free with an pre-screening process of some sort may be even better.
And..so that you or Dan or The Gang don’t end up having to screen applications, members who join up and get accepted could do a mandatory review of maybe three or six applications as part of a team, to help you screen and accept the cream from the crap.
More ideas on this, anyone?
I agree with John Miley. Pre-screening would be the best way to prevent this great idea from being exposed. I liked the idea of members approving other members. You can also have a group of moderators to do this as well.
Great Idea, Ed!
I think this is exactly what we all have been looking for for years. This is also for those of us who are just damned tired of being pitched to every other day for this “get-rich-quick” scheme or that “killer” tactic.
I too am concerned about the potential for spammers taking advantage of this wonderful opportunity. I think the only way this will work is if all the members treat this innovation as a privilege as opposed to an entitlement. So that in order to even get into this thing you need to first be invited by a trusted member. Members will also need to electronically sign a contract stating that they won’t abuse this privilege and that any infraction such as spamming will result in cancellation of membership.
That’s my 2 cents. I know I sound a bit harsh but I think something like this needs to be protected and nurtured.
Thanks a lot for this ideas and your hard work, Ed. You and Dan and all of your team always struck me as people with integrity.
Gratefully yours,
Kai C. Yee
Can somebody say… MASHUP!
Why not use all our favorite web 2.0 properties to host all the content, or even host it on our own blogs if we like and then create a mashup of data sorted by tags and digg style voting on the proposed website.
It has to be Simple!
All you’d end up with is a bunch of tags with content under each one, you could sort by video/article/tool etc… and then sort by number of “diggs”.
You’d end up with user created content that is moderated … by the users
The articles with the most votes filter to the top of each tag, and the ones with the least get left behind…
Shouldn’t take long to code and if people want to promote themselves and services I think that’s fine so long as you’re also giving away something for free first.
I don’t like the idea of pre screening or anything too time intensive… it has to work the way the Internet works… community driven, and community focused.
Cheers,
Ant
Ummm, Ed, why were you afraid of the echidna. Seems pretty tame if you don’t touch the quills.
http://www.convictcreations.com/animals/echidna.htm
I am settling into a new job and plan on getting back to 30DC soon. I miss all the action, lol.
Paula
Yep great idea. I say, Mr Dale get people making money that want it, need it, and will put in the time to achieve it, you will have many many life long customers all very happy to listen and pay for your words of wisdom, you are making a difference and I thank you for it, I could go on but I won’t, but please no more singing;-) The start of a “Strategic Enterprise” (Bill Bishop) it’s a good thing. For the community by the community, I always thought that the Internet could play a huge role in the survival of rural communities not to mention less commuter’s, it could and can, but that’s another story you could be bringing that story forward with you plans and I hope you do!
Anyway
good on ya
Calum
PS I could supply lot’s of very bad English, Spelling and non understandable text!
Hey Ed,
Awesome idea!!!!!!
Oh hey though something you might want to check out before we move ahead with creating a wiki format, etc., is an awesome site called taggzilla.com. A fellow 30day challenger Sarah Harris (a.k.a. captain of SuperSize Your Socializing & Love Leaders facebook group) has been working really hard at creating this site with other fellow captains/teammates. It’s simply fantastic!!! If nothing else I think a lot can be learned about this site to use for building something on a larger scale if need be.
Again thanks for the awesome idea and for sharing the neat experience with the echidna -that was too cool!!!
Ciao,
Shayna
Hello Ed,
It is a wonderful concept. It is so much better to give then to receive. I know it would truly bless alot of people.
There is so much information being thrown around these days and much of it is worthless. It is very difficult for those of us who are new to the whole idea of marketing on the internet because we are being bombarded with the next best information package. (information overload & a drain financially)
I really appreciate what you have provided thus far. This could be a place that would really help people wade through all the BS and find the specific how to’s for making it online. As long as it would be monitored to truly provide honest information that seeks to help people and not exploit them for someone’s financial gain.
You are an innovator and seeking to leave a legacy that really could have a major impact on peoples lives! Please do not let your vision die.
God bless you & your team,
Ron
This would be so awesome! I was hoping for something like this. I participated in 30 Day challenge and now the Immediate Edge. I understand the concept of everything, but need a bit more examples and support to actually apply all of the techniques. This would be great for someone like me who is not web savvy.
I would go further than this. I would set up a website called How do I.com where people selling information products that answer the question “how do i….” can create pages, blogs etc where participation is free but if they start earning off their sites they contribute some portion of the earning of their sites to central promotion of the website vehicle, so everyone benefits.
i’d be willing to donate a few hours per week of my staff’s time to help develop this but we would need people to help write the specs though
I think this is an awesome idea. I have learned more from the ThirtyDC, than from any of the books, videos, & courses that I have purchased! I also like tagzilla.com. it is great. Web 2.0 is the wave of the future, and 95%
of internet marketer’s do not get it. The free tools have helped me so much. I am so much further ahead, when I am doing research. I also need more support, as I am not web savy.
I also agree with Walter Van Straaten’s idea on the above post.
Thank you Ed, Dan and the group, you all are the greatest.
Tony
Hi to Ed, the 30DC trainers, and of course to my newest IM friends
I love the idea Ed! Unfortunately, however, there is always going to be a few bad apples that are going to try to destroy such an awesome community, so I wish you (and us) incredible insight and the strength to pull this off.
After watching your very humorous, yet intriguing, video and reading all of the posts here, I have a few ideas.
First, I love the idea that any submissions can only be signed by your name. If, in the reader’s opinion, your instructional advice is warranted I believe that most people would be interested in clicking your name that would take them to your profile where you have links to any and all accomplishments, affiliate links, etc, etc. It would be your profile, link away. If the reader does find your advice to be of value, then no one would click your name and you would get what was deserved, no recognition. If the post is of value then the time spent by the person devoting their time to help other 30 Day Challengers could still prove to have some monetary incentive.
Secondly, I think that it was hit right on the head when someone (sorry I can’t find the post now) said that being a member of the 30DC was a privilege and not an entitlement. I strongly agree. The site needs genuine, committed, driven members where you are not just entitled because you have an Internet connection.
On the spamming issue…..
What if you charged a one time fee that was refunded to the member after X number of log ins or posts, within a 30 day window? People could charge their credit card and know that if they meet the set requirements they will get a refund in time to pay off their credit card. I would think that very few spammers are going to pay (say $50) to join the member’s area. Also, sign up would be regulated via IP addresses so that person A cannot give their log in information to person B who has not meet any of the requirements.
Or, such as O.B.A., you charge a one time fee of $10 that gives the member a user ID, and a link to promote the website (aka affiliate link) of which they keep X% of the commissions. (O.B.A. is 100%)
This idea is a purposeful mechanism that will allow the site to be free to a new joiner once they have promoted the site to 1 or 2 people. I’m thinking that spammers will not want to participate in something like this either.
As much as I realize that ideas such as the two I have provided will be a bit of a pain in the *ss for new members of this new site, I believe that this is exactly the type of thing that needs to be put in place to deter non-genuine members.
I am not sure how the majority of 30DCers feel, but I for one would follow anything like I have suggested in order to be privy to the awesome, truly educational information that would be found on the new site.
Kudos to Ed & Dan and the whole 30DC community for a very comfortable environment in which I feel free to listen, learn and speak openly.
Ed you are amazing! If you weren’t married with children and I wasn’t married with children (and grandchildren), if we didn’t live half way across the world from each other, I would definitely want to get to know you much better. I could listen to your humor, your accent, and your incredible insights, forever.
Don’t worry, I’m not a stalker. I just wanted you to know that some of us appreciate your virtues in the exact manner you deliver.
Ed,
Your brilliance, humility and commitment to “the greater good” are rare attributes that have been an unexpected and precious gift to 30DC participants. Your newest idea is the logical next step that we require in order gain enough perspective to be able to judge whether we’re making the wisest advert decisions about effectively marketing the way the Web works.
The proposed new initiative must remain simple; there should not be the need for an administrative cast of thousands. Emphasis might be as follows: (1) implementation of the sequence of events we’ve been taught in 30DC leading up to launch of an IM business; (2) pro-active personal search for and use of the proliferation of free Web 2.0 platforms and tools in order to generate “sample” blogs and adverts using the additional tools provided by these platforms; (3) viewing and comment by the 30DC sequel members of the “sample” blog or advert; (4) where-to-find and how-to-use free tools discovered would be shared; (5) 30DC sequel members would provide comments on how the “sample” blog/advert could be improved; (6) access information about successful free tools/techniques could become part of a directory or otherwise be made available to 30DC (sequel) members.
But how might spammers be eliminated? Maybe a membership organization is a good idea, with applicants required to submit an application outline explaining how their product/blog/advert makes a positive contribution to Web 2.0 community/social objectives and their strategy for continuing to improve their blog/advert content. There needs to be the commitment to a proactive input. Examples of free platforms that also provide innovative tools to enable their effective use are Skype, Facebook, Metaplace.com, and Imadeapage.com.
“Metaplace allows more diversity. Right now, there are lots of people who want to use virtual worlds for research, or education, or business, but it’s just too darn hard to get one going. Now you can create a world in just a few minutes and start tailoring it to your needs. Basically, we wanted to democratize the process of making online spaces of all sorts…We speak Web 2.0 fluently. Every world is a web server, and every object has a URL. You can script an object so that it feeds RSS, XML, or HTML to a browser. This lets you do things like high score tables, objects that email you, player profile pages right on the player — whatever you want. Every object can also browse the Web: a chat bot can chatter headlines from an RSS feed, a newspaper with real headlines can sit on your virtual desk…”
The 30DC sequel as proposed above could provide leverage to all its members by enlarging its territory to encompass so very much that’s available as part of Web 2.0 and helping members figure how to most effectively use a self-created “mashup.”
Lynn Catoe-Emerson
Hi how about calling it Interpediea by Ed and the 30dcrs?
Well you can guess who one of the slackers is by my late response to the video.
The concept is awesome and yes, it would need to bear some resemblance to StomperNet/Free IQ (categories of info, moderation etc.) but with the members contributing the content. One significant draw back to the existing membership sites is that there is no feedback for your material. Or at least there wasn’t until a weekend meeting in Atlanta. Ed is right, the way we communicate is changing and will change dramatically in the future. We have to find ways to get rank but to learn to communicate often with short bursts of information to our followers and keep it interesting and entertaining. Anyone who spends time on the FreeIQ site could tell you that being able to post a video doesn’t mean you should! I for one would love a place to learn but also to practice what I’m learning by getting feedback on the work I produce. This is the piece everyone is missing.
Summary: 1) moderation is necessary.
require a reference from an existing member of a higher tier to join that tier to
2) incorporate a marketing platform for blogs/videos etc
3) See Crystal Woods response (I agree to all)
4) include a place where we can submit sales pages, videos, blogs etc for member feedback
5) make contribution to other members part of attaining higher tiers
6) let the site make money in advertising. Affiliates can run ads, use AdSense
etc. This can help offset costs short term and be a money maker long term.
7) have a serious black list policy
stop spammers from attaining anything but the lowest ranked tier.
I also want to say thanks for the 30DC so far. I have learned as much by watching you, Ed, and how fast you turn events into actionable marketing tools as I did from the 30DC. It is and will continue to be a value.
First I would like to say thanks to Ed and the team for the thirty day challenge. I have learnt a lot over the last two years, starting as a newbie and now with enough confidence to rebuild my old website using the targeted keyword phrases Ed has taught. I could not have done this without the knowledge from the TDC.
But that is what the Thirty day challenge was designed for, to teach those of us who knew nothing about making a living on the internet, to show the right way to get it done. It takes a lot of time for all the information to sink in, so thanks to Ed we can download and watch the information over and over again and by reading the information in blog comments and on the forum we all learn. I believe it is most important to keep this information available to the newbie, or even the experienced person as a real learning tool.
I like the concept of allowing those with knowledge to contribute to help others. One would think this information would be moderated, so new ideas are introduced that have been “proven to work” and then the people who want to learn get the correct information.
The TDC is a free membership site now, and I believe it should remain so. To put a price on information to help the newbie get started would stop anyone taking advantage of the reason the site was started in the first place.
To force someone to make a comment, before they have learnt enough to make an educated comment, would be a waste of resources, so I do not think this kind of “you must make so many comments before your vote is valid” is justified. It is going to make people make comments to build up their voting power and give moderators more work sifting through rehashed information. People will contribute, when they have experienced the results from what they have been taught, with quality information.
There should still be provision for group discussion, an inbuilt skype page eg., the forum, so people can bounce off each other when they need help. I don’t think an information site only with no social features is wise.
I do agree in a voting point system for genuine content. Spammy content that has got past the moderators in the first instance will then be voted down by the members and as some one said earlier no one would click on anyones personal information if they did not get some value from the information they read, seen or heard.
As for the format to set-up all the information and allow people to add content, I don’t have enough information to make a justified comment as to what is best, but I am using cms e107 from e107.org to rebuild my new member site. It has all the features you require and the admin area allows for advanced moderation and certain members can be given limited privileges to moderate content. You can add many social features to the cms and it is more highly recommended, over joomla or drupal. (This is not a ad, just a fair recommendation for a good program)
By the way Ed, your friendly echidna won’t attack, but I would be careful playing around with a male one, they have poisonous spines. I took one to school one day to show the kids, after it dug up my freshly planted vegetable patch. Yes I set him free in the bush later.
Ed, I have a few additional thoughts:
(1) Wikipedia clone: the idea is brilliant and could quickly become a go-to reference IF:
(a) the continuation program you propose becomes an experimental laboratory where participants seek additional innovative tools and methods to create the most effective IM products/creatives possible;
(b) candidate participants have completed the basic pre-product-launch steps taught in the 30DC;
(c) candidate participants are willing to participate in a test phase where they will test the click-through rate of their (creative) copy against that of their greatest competitor and experiment with changes that are winners. This testing should become an ongoing operation; the search for Web 2.0 innovations that attract attention that leads to conversions should never cease;
(d) the opportunity for combining resources currently available online to create totally new “mashups” should be encouraged and tested against competing creatives for effectiveness;
(e) 30DCers with the skills might help in development of the “mashups” that then become “open source”
and included in the WikiPedia clone;
(f) participating 30DCers would be able to review the progression and make comments — as well as use
the new tool(s) in their own projects.
(2) Spam:
(a) selection process for the new initiative should include completion of the pre-product-launch steps of the 30DC, specifics about a selected product or service for promotion, and explanation of the product or service’s benefit.
(b) understanding by the candidate participant that tools developed will be “open source”; no personal financial benefit is to be expected.
That’s all for now. I’ll be in touch.
Lynn Catoe-Emerson
Aight!..
Ed,
Thanks so much for all of your giving. I think it sounds like a great idea. I am a software engineer with a pretty diverse background. Currently I develop web related software (a fulltime JOB) using java, javascript, css, html, mysql, etc. If you need a volunteer to assist with some of the programming, I’d be willing to help.
Dean Hoover
this type of interactive source would be brilliant as I learn well visually and it’s just faster! In would hope that i would be able to offer helpful information and tips I discover but still remain at a beginner level of understanding as compared to many experienced 30DChallengers!
Is there any way to ’self moderate’ by applying the web 2.0 properties such as ratings, ex. like stumble!
self regulating?
margurite,
canada
Loved your vid Ed as they always make me giggle and looking at your face worrying if the echidna was about to attack was very funny! The TDC has been such an amzing resource and has built up such a great community of likeminded people, at all levels, that there must be a way to keep it going in the spirit you describe - regardless of the potential spammers. I agree from comments above that this must be possible without having to employ an army of admin people. Sure you’d get lots of us happy to volunteer as moderators - I’m not too hot on the programming/technical stuff, but not bad on the marketing/writing side, and sure the community can find a way to help police the site and any problems.
Where there’s a will there’s a way and I have not doubt that your proposals will be a big success.
Thanks again to you and the team for everything.
Tamsin
Another wonderful idea Ed, maybe over time i will even learn to make an application
I like the dream concept too
Just now able to watch the video (great job Ed, evading the wild beaste).
New enough to all of this that I can only add how much I have loved being a part of the 30DC and how much I have learned. And I would love to see something like this continue the momentum and learning. However, reading through the over 76 comments; I realize that there is still so much I do not know and I am fearful that some of the suggestions would rule out the person like me with just enough information to be dangerous; mostly to myself.
So I would hope that this continues to provide something of value to to those of us new to the process and also to those very experienced in that process. This is what I believe the 30DC was able to accomplish.
Thanks Ed for you continued efforts on our behalf.
Ed,
Stompernet affiliation will indeed provide you (and Dominiche) with both the secure setting and the “cachet”
to more easily build your own proprietary Encyclopedia/Wikipedia — with minimal malicious obstruction. I wish you good luck, will be watching your progress, and cheering from the sidelines.
With best wishes.
Lynn E. Catoe-Emerson
It’s a great idea Ed and yet again another example of how you are trying to help all the rest of us out - here in the big wide world. How you have the time to do all this I have no idea… but reading a lot of the above comments you can see how appreciated you are. Your 30DC has been an exercise in generosity and an eye-opener to someone like me who has paid out for various ’scams’ in the past only to find that real Internet entrepreneurs are extroadinarily generous with their time and knowledge. Thank you for that and I look forward to what you, Dan and the other boffins above come up with!
It’s a great idea Ed and yet again another example of how you are trying to help all the rest of us - out here in the big wide world. How you have the time to do all this I have no idea… but reading a lot of the above comments you can see how appreciated you are. Your 30DC has been an exercise in generosity and an eye-opener to someone like me who has paid out for various ’scams’ in the past only to find that real Internet entrepreneurs are extroadinarily generous with their time and knowledge. Thank you for that and I look forward to what you, Dan and the other boffins above come up with!
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