Any Alternatives To Traffic Bug?

[lisahartwell]

Originally Posted by xtianalert

I am just wondering why it is that I have not found any of the social bookmarking backlinks. When I inserted my site into onlywire.com I spotted my social bookmarking submission in google within a few hours. I have inserted my site about 2 weeks ago, and have not found any backlinks.

Also, What is the difference between an indexing tool, and a ranking tool, as I have seen you give this argument before.

I am just trying to choose the right path. Thank you for replying once again, and I hope you can clarify it for me a bit more.

Social bookmarking is not about creating backlinks. Google ignores most of the social bookmarking sites these days in terms of backlinks and the few that may appear are usually fleeting. They always were.

The reason Ed calls it an indexing tool, is because Google still indexes the bookmarking sites regularly, so if you bookmark your content the bots will pick up on it a lot quicker than if you just waited for Google to find your site naturally. Hence, indexing it in the search engines.

Lisa

[anteck]

Ed,

Traffic Bug IS a sham.

The warrior forum isn't that bad mate, sure it's got it's bad points, but i know of many decent, well trusted folks who are on there. Calling it a 'bastion of bullshit' only shows your inability to accept criticism from a bunch of normal people who actually are reporting zero results from traffic bug.

Myself and countless others have found ZERO backlinks from traffic bug. Ok, so you've moved from the original stance of 'getting backlinks' to 'getting indexed'. Apart from RSS Feeds, if you get indexed via a link, it's gonna turn into backlink.

Ed, you yourself state on your new product:

Valuing websites*|*A video ecourse with Ed Dale

2.45 - "If you put a 30 day challenge type site up on it, put it into traffic bug, and if you did nothing else, come back six weeks later, and you've got a PR3, PR4 Site"

Need i say more???

Delete me from this forum if you wish, i'm guessing you will. I don't much care...

[Clive Owens]

Well anteck, I have used Traffic Bug myself, and I have seen good results using it, my traffic has increased and I got indexed pretty fast too!

[Trevario]

Originally Posted by anteck

Ed,

Traffic Bug IS a sham.

The warrior forum isn't that bad mate, sure it's got it's bad points, but i know of many decent, well trusted folks who are on there. Calling it a 'bastion of bullshit' only shows your inability to accept criticism from a bunch of normal people who actually are reporting zero results from traffic bug.

Myself and countless others have found ZERO backlinks from traffic bug. Ok, so you've moved from the original stance of 'getting backlinks' to 'getting indexed'. Apart from RSS Feeds, if you get indexed via a link, it's gonna turn into backlink.

Ed, you yourself state on your new product:

Valuing websites*|*A video ecourse with Ed Dale

2.45 - "If you put a 30 day challenge type site up on it, put it into traffic bug, and if you did nothing else, come back six weeks later, and you've got a PR3, PR4 Site"

Need i say more???

Delete me from this forum if you wish, i'm guessing you will. I don't much care...

its an indexing tool tho. it's used for INDEXING not for backlinking. do you not understand this?

quote from day 8 of the challenge "Features of Traffic Bug include automated social bookmarking, RSS distribution, search engine submission, and directory submission."

[Jon Dean]

Anteck,

First of all, I can see that this is your first post so welcome to our forums!

As I can see that this is your very first post on our forums, I'm making an assumption that you've actually been through the 30DC in it's entirety to check out what we teach before you came along with your opinion?

The first thing you should read is our Forum Rules [which can be found here: 2009 30DC Rules & Procedures :-) ] which outline what type of posts are acceptable and what are not.

With regard to your post, no one is going to delete you from the forums, however, you seem to be completely missing the point of how Traffic Bug is being used as part of our process.

The Thirty Day Challenge is a process which involves a variety of different web 2.0 properties and articles all inter-linking back to your niche site to promote it. Traffic Bug is used as part of the 30DC process to speed up indexing of all these articles and content - nothing more, nothing less

It's used as part of the 30DC for indexing and always has been.

At no point in any of the 30DC training do we say you should only be using Traffic Bug for all your bookmarking needs, feel free to go back through the 30 days training and check for yourself.

And as far as you quoting Ed's video, as you pointed out he says "if you put up a 30DC type site" - this would involve doing all the steps in the 30DC to get it indexed and ranked which includes a heck of a lot more stuff.

As we show people in our pre-season training, you can use Social Marker to do this yourself if you don't want to use Traffic Bug, so feel free not to use it if you feel you're not getting benefit from it.

We're really not concerned if you (or anyone else over at the Warrior Forum) are trying to spend time verifying backlinks and calling out Traffic Bug as a waste of space, we're not using it for the purposes you're talking about so you're trying to compare apples to oranges.

Traffic Bug is one small process in a larger 30 day process, and that's the point all the people seem to keep missing.

As a general note to all:

I've posted many times before at how trying to verify your backlinks made by any tool is a waste of time, and if you do a simple forum search on my name you'll see what I've said previously.

In a nutshell: You're measuring the wrong metric.

You should be concerned at where your sites are ranking, what visitors you're getting and what conversion rates you're achieving (how much you sell).

Trying to verify backlinks is a complete waste of your time and effort, and rather than just taking my word for it please take five minutes to read this blog post from the guys over at SEOMoz:

SEOmoz | Google Link: Command - Busting the Myths

Cheers,
Jon.

[thezookeeper4]

Originally Posted by sanj2010

Totally off topic, but this thread currently ranks No 4 (broad match) for the term "bastion of bullshit", 89,000 competing pages! With a bit of backlinking, I'm sure we can take the No 1 spot!

Ed - I've never heard that expression before, do you have (tm) on it yet?

"bastion of bullshit" now #2 in google

[cmasser2]

#3 now

In all seriousness though, what was used in past 30DC?

It appears that Social Marker was the tool of choice for 30DC08 and for those of us on a shoestring who don't mind putting in a little more time, what would be some good terms to search or threads to help us understand the differences between indexing, backlinking and directory submissions, as well as free methods to accomplish this?

Sometimes I wish I would've been like Ed and done the IM equivalent of "uphill 15 miles in the snow both ways" b/c I feel spoiled by how easy it is to do an MS search or TB submission and in-turn get easily discouraged if I don't see instant results

I was under the impression that my 30DC blog got indexed by submitting to TB, is this correct? In addition, I figured that backlinks and directory submissions came from TB entries as well.

[DeanRichards]

what would be some good terms to search or threads to help us understand the differences between indexing, backlinking and directory submissions, as well as free methods to accomplish this?

I'd say those are good keywords and that Google is your friend.

Free Indexing Tool

Free Backlink Builder Tool

Free Directory Submission

I was under the impression that my 30DC blog got indexed by submitting to TB, is this correct? In addition, I figured that backlinks and directory submissions came from TB entries as well.

For understanding exactly what Traffic-Bug does and doesn't do...

The Traffic-Bug FAQ is your friend.

...how easy it is to do an MS search or TB submission and in-turn get easily discouraged if I don't see instant results.

Get used to it. Feeling discouraged from time to time is guaranteed in this game. As long as you keep working at it anyway, and it sounds like you are, then you'll do fine.

[cmasser2]

Thanks Dean that was as close to as perfect that a response gets

I believe I've used the Edison quote on here before, but now more than ever I need to live by "I am not discouraged, for every wrong attempt discarded is another step closer"