Additional info on Google maintenance issue

[kenetrix]

Originally Posted by mitchellg

It had to be during the TDC.

On the other hand, searches are going fly when this is done.

For something of this scale, is there EVER a "good time"?? Not by a long shot!

But, as you say, OTOH, searches are going to fly, once the roll-out is completed.

Just take some consolation that it was Google doing this, and not that comedy troop from Redmond (Now, that thought gives me the shivers!!)

-Ken

[kenetrix]

Originally Posted by Caro

Cool bananas - that explanation has been easily absorbed - thank you!

And I am STILL very impressed with your technical knowledge Like...WOW!

Caro

Glad that it helped make it clearer.

And thanks for the kind words as to my technical knowledge.

I guess after almost 40 years of experience, something worthwhile must have sunk in!

-Ken

[DerR]

Thanks for the heads up! The coder in me found that very informative.

[nrocy]

Ah another techie Nice explanation!

A bit off-topic but mind if I ask what you're using protobufs for? (or was it just a benchmarking exercise?)

I have to admit I rolled my eyes when I initially heard about the project (not ANOTHER IDL!) but having looked at it, it's awesome to find that it seems to rely more on practicality than being everything to everyone (I can't use SOAP without wanting to tear my hair out)

Anyways, cheers for the post
- Paul

[kenetrix]

Originally Posted by DerR

Thanks for the heads up! The coder in me found that very informative.

Glad you found it informative ... I knew there had to be some coders amongst the 30DC members!

-Ken

[kenetrix]

Originally Posted by nrocy

Ah another techie Nice explanation!

A bit off-topic but mind if I ask what you're using protobufs for? (or was it just a benchmarking exercise?)

I have to admit I rolled my eyes when I initially heard about the project (not ANOTHER IDL!) but having looked at it, it's awesome to find that it seems to rely more on practicality than being everything to everyone (I can't use SOAP without wanting to tear my hair out)

Anyways, cheers for the post
- Paul

Glad you liked it!

It was somewhat of a benchmarking exercise, I'll readily admit, but more so, I was intrigued by it being a very possible solution to the inherent problems with XML itself.

The non-scalability of XML, coupled with the widespread, ever-increasing use of it, has always been very worrisome to me.

It was just a matter of time until all of the many uses of XML just "imploded", which would disable many of the uses of it that have come into existence over the past years.

I'll admit it's certainly a huge load off my mind!

I can empathize with your initial reaction of "Oh, no - not another IDL!!", but that was only momentary, since it was Google doing it, so I knew it would be done the right way.

Now, if it was Microsoft doing it....well, that's a totally different story! (Yikes!!)

As for what I'm using it for, well, just about everything that, up to this point, has been reliant on XML, and I'm now breathing a huge sigh of relief!!

I intend to transition to Buffer Protocol as much as possible, and as soon as possible, with everything that I am using XML for up to this point,

P.S. I totally agree with you regarding the use of SOAP. It has some of the same inherent problems as XML, not to mention that it's a pain in the butt to use to implement anything useful in, without tearing one's hair out and more!

Lastly, glad that you liked the post, and that you found it informative. I live to serve.

-Ken

[alexander13]

kenetrix,

I appreciate the post. The human mind always loves an explanation especially on an issue which is causing frustration.

Though some of what you wrote sounded like Chinese to me the secondary "layman's translation" you did summed it up pretty well.

Are you saying you prefer the 'do no evil' of Google to the bad boys at Microsoft, Ken?

Also, it seems you're a Googler. PM me before everyone else gets a crack at you so you can divulge to me all of google's deepest, darkets algorithm secrets (or at least how good their free food is).

Also, have you been a coder for 40 years?

[kenetrix]

Originally Posted by alexander13

kenetrix,

I appreciate the post. The human mind always loves an explanation especially on an issue which is causing frustration.

Though some of what you wrote sounded like Chinese to me the secondary "layman's translation" you did summed it up pretty well.

Glad to hear that the second explanation was more clear to you and others.

Are you saying you prefer the 'do no evil' of Google to the bad boys at Microsoft, Ken?

In a word, YES!

Although I don't think that Google is flawless, they are far better, and more "clued-in" than the boys at Microsoft, who have yet to get a clue about the "bloatware" they insist on churning out. They put on a good "show", but they repeatedly fail to deliver what's promised, when it's promised. (e.g., "Vista")

Also, it seems you're a Googler. PM me before everyone else gets a crack at you so you can divulge to me all of google's deepest, darkets algorithm secrets (or at least how good their free food is).

No, I don't work for Google!

I just follow them "religiously", in terms of what their engineers are working on, and I visit many of their main folk's blogs daily (e.g., Matt Cutts, etc.). Over the years, I've learned how to read "between the lines" very, very well.

As for divulging any Google "secrets" (well, at least those I can divulge), I'll do that here, in the forum, so everyone in TDC can benefit equally.

And, YES, the free food, and everything else, at the "Googleplex" IS very, very good. (But those folks deserve it, totally.)

Also, have you been a coder for 40 years?

Yes, hard to believe, but it's true.

Everything from "big iron" mainframes, to minicomputers, to microcomputers - the whole gamut. I've done major applications, written operating systems and extensions to them, compilers, you name it.

I've written millions of lines of code over the years, and the most amazing part to me, is how much of that knowledge I've managed to retin without blowing a "brain gasket"!

Even my home network would blow your mind, believe me.

Heck, now that I think about it, I've probably had my hands into just about everything you could imagine, technology-wise.

Guess that makes me a certified "techno-geek", huh?

If you've got any specific questions regarding Google, let me know, and I'll try to assist.

-Ken