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Old 06-17-2010, 03:24 AM
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Hi I just recently joined 30dc and am very excited.

I have a blog already and have been ranking on the 1st page of google for months now but no one is doing anything. I have embedded affiliate links in posts and have set up a store and yet still no one seems interested.

Could we be targeting the wrong keywords. there is soooo much info out there about seo and keywords and traffic and etc... I feel totally and completely out of it.

I am so lost if I should try to target something different. We only get on average about 15 to 20 visitors a day. and about 4 or so comments daily.

I sure could use some advice.

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Old 06-17-2010, 07:39 PM
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The first thing I would look at is the competition. Are you selling the same products as the top ranking sites for these keywords? Are they, in fact, selling anything? If the top ranking sites for these keywords are basically "information only" sites, then that is a red flag that people searching for these words are not really buyers. You can a similar idea by looking at the Adwords data for these words in Market Samurai. If the cost per click is very low, then that is a good indication of low commercial value.

If the results from this sort of analysis lead you to believe there really is commercial value in these keywords, then you have to look at what sort of clickthrough rate you're getting. What percentage of visitors to your site are clicking through to your offer? If that percentage is very low, (<5%) then you need to do a better job of convincing people that what you're offering is what they want.

If you're getting a decent percentage of clickthroughs but people aren't buying, then your offer isn't converting and you need to try offereing a different product.

I hope this helps!
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Old 06-18-2010, 02:55 AM
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Run through the tasks in days #2 and #3 of the challenge.

How do your theme and keywords, and then the competition, stack up in Market Samurai?

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Old 06-18-2010, 02:57 AM
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thanks for the information.

One issue I do have, is the fact that we are already on page 1 of Google, and getting some traffic and comments. My son is an expert with this niche, and really wants to do it. More like he wants to provide folks with good information and resources.

Our competition has things like google adsense on it and some clickbank products.

I know his theme keyword and category keywords do not meet the criteria with 30dc but we have been doing okay. We just want to get higher on the google result pages, our primary keyword we are ranking #6, there are a few other keywords we are ranking for but not on page 1.

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Old 06-18-2010, 03:05 AM
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I know his theme keyword and category keywords do not meet the criteria with 30dc
Then doesn't this explain the low traffic?

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We just want to get higher on the google result pages, our primary keyword we are ranking #6, there are a few other keywords we are ranking for but not on page 1.
Day #3 of the challenge will show you what strengths your competition have for those keywords to give you an idea of what you will need to do
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Old 06-18-2010, 03:47 AM
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ok so his theme keyword doesn't hit the 30,000 it is more like 45,000, so this means we will never see any descent traffic. What about those out there that say it is possible to be on page 1 of Google and get tons of traffic?

I don't get it.

Ok, here is the deal, my son is an expert when it comes to bearded dragons. There are thousands of sites/blogs out there. Doing good and ranking high. Some have stores and some have adsense and clickbank stuff. he just wants to do the same thing.

there is a lot of misinformation out there about these guys and he wants to provide good quality content and products. So does he give up and not do this? Or work a bit harder to make it happen. This isn't a brand new domain either it has been around for about a year now.

we never have really monetized this site, didn't know how to or what to do.

where should we go with this, since it doesn't meet the criteria for 30dc?
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:22 PM
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The 45000 vs 30000 is not a deal breaker its a guide line 45000 just means a bit more work to rank #1. Day 2 and 3 training will tell you how much work you need to do. You need to have have more links to your site or higher quality links then your competition. I would rather be in a market I'm passionate about at 45000 then one I don't care for at 30000. Also you might try targeting some lower competition KW's with individual post on the blog. 10 KWs that each bring in 7 visits a day is sometimes a lot easier to rank for than one that brings in 70 visits a day.
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Old 06-18-2010, 02:02 PM
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Everything you need to know about your site and your traffic is in your analytics. There are also a number of tools and sites you can use to help you research your competition.

Look in your analytics. How many of your visitors are coming into your site by searching for your theme keywords?

What is your page rank? If it is 0 or 1, you need to do a better job of building backlinks and building authority.

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What about those out there that say it is possible to be on page 1 of Google and get tons of traffic
Blanket statements like this are meaningless. Being #1 for "weight loss" is quite a different story than being #1 for "bearded dragons." It is obvious that being #1 on Google for keywords with a relatively low number of searches isn't the same thing as being #1 for keywords with a high volume of searches.

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he wants to provide good quality content and products.
There is nothing stopping him from doing that. Is he going to be able to live the high life and drive a Ferrari off the earnings of a site about lizards? Obviously not. But he can learn and practice the principals of internet marketing and have fun with his bearded dragons site and then take what he learns from that experience and apply it to bigger markets that have a greater earnings potential.

You don't start in the major leagues. You start small. You learn and practice the fundamentals and then you work your way up to the big leagues. A site in a small niche that you are passionate about is actually the best way to start, but you have to be realistic in your expectations.

There is no reason that your son can't become the market leader in the bearded dragons market. Everything you need to know about how to do that is available in the 30DC training and in the information about sound marketing principals found all over the web. All you or anyone else can do is be the best they can be and once you've done that, then the chips fall the way they fall and that's just how all of life works.

Don't forget that the 30DC is all about testing niches and you're not testing this niche, you're committed to it already, so the SEOC numbers don't really mean anything to you. Concentrate on the parts of the training that will help you build authority and become a market leader. Stuff like quality content and building quality backlinks and using Twitter and FaceBook to build a web presence.

Good luck!
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Old 06-21-2010, 05:08 AM
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Dean thank you for all your comments.

I see I am over worrying about this. And we will concentrate on the other training. As he already ranks on page 1 of Google for 2 of his primary keywords, we just need to build the quality backlinks and get noticed out there.

Thank you everyone for all your advice, it will all be taken in and we will move forward with this them keyword- Bearded Dragon care, it is our passion and we will work small to lead up to bigger things.
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Old 11-24-2010, 05:06 AM
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There are so many things you have to look for. first of all analyze your competitors what keyword they are targeting for. Then do keywords analyses by Google adwords and traffic estimator tool. Also check your paid keywords by spy.fu
select efficient keyword then you will see good results.
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